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Re: Grape Profile - Baga - The Saliva Sucker

João Rico — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:15:12 -0000

Ryan,

Baga is a wonderfull grape that needs to be understand. It so hard to work with Baga but there are a few winemakers that know all the secrets ans make really great wines. Baga gives wines so amazing and so bordeaux like. You just need to wait for the apropriate moment ( sometimes 10 years or more). Ex:

Luis Pato Vinha Barrosa
Luis Pato Vinha Pan
Luis Pato Quinta do Ribeirinho Pé Franco
Casa de Saima Garrafeira
Quinta das Bageiras Garrafeira
Sodónio Sousa Garrafeira

Just no name a few that have great wines.

Best regards

Re: Grape Profile - Baga - The Saliva Sucker

João Rico — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:15:12 -0000

Ryan,

Baga is a wonderfull grape that needs to be understand. It so hard to work with Baga but there are a few winemakers that know all the secrets ans make really great wines. Baga gives wines so amazing and so bordeaux like. You just need to wait for the apropriate moment ( sometimes 10 years or more). Ex:

Luis Pato Vinha Barrosa

Luis Pato Vinha Pan

Luis Pato Quinta do Ribeirinho Pé Franco

Casa de Saima Garrafeira

Quinta das Bageiras Garrafeira

Sodónio Sousa Garrafeira

Just no name a few that have great wines.

Best regards

Re: Grape Profile - Baga - The Saliva Sucker

Tommy — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:06:01 -0000

Ryan the best 100% Baga I have ever had is from producer Luis Pato who is located in Bairrada. He's ones of Portugal's great wine makers. I just recently had his 1998 Vinha Barrosa from a vineyard which is over 80 years old. This wine was in my humble opinion incredibly complex and such a surprise I bought this bottle a year or two back for curiosity sake and was completely wowed. His wines from his old vine vineyards are known to age well. I agree young Baga doesn't really float my boat. But the aged juice from Pato is outstanding truly a great wine to search out. His website is www.luispato.com and is in english as well as Portuguese. He is very friendly and loves promoting his Portuguese indigenous varietals, I have asked him a lot of questions about Portuguese wine making and he always replies back to me personally. We currently distribute his Maria Gomes white but someday I hope to direct import his other reds. Interestingly he makes a sparkling wine with 100% Baga too. I haven't tried it yet but I'll let you know when I do! Let me know what you think if you try them. Aloha!

Re: Grape Profile - Baga - The Saliva Sucker

Tommy — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:06:01 -0000

Ryan the best 100% Baga I have ever had is from producer Luis Pato who is located in Bairrada. He's ones of Portugal's great wine makers. I just recently had his 1998 Vinha Barrosa from a vineyard which is over 80 years old. This wine was in my humble opinion incredibly complex and such a surprise I bought this bottle a year or two back for curiosity sake and was completely wowed. His wines from his old vine vineyards are known to age well. I agree young Baga doesn't really float my boat. But the aged juice from Pato is outstanding truly a great wine to search out. His website is <a href="<a href="http://www.luispato.com " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.luispato.com "><a href="http://www.luispato.com " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.luispato.com and is in english as well as Portuguese. He is very friendly and loves promoting his Portuguese indigenous varietals, I have asked him a lot of questions about Portuguese wine making and he always replies back to me personally. We currently distribute his Maria Gomes white but someday I hope to direct import his other reds. Interestingly he makes a sparkling wine with 100% Baga too. I haven't tried it yet but I'll let you know when I do! Let me know what you think if you try them. Aloha!

Re: Grape Profile - Baga - The Saliva Sucker

Tommy — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:06:01 -0000

Ryan the best 100% Baga I have ever had is from producer Luis Pato who is located in Bairrada. He's ones of Portugal's great wine makers. I just recently had his 1998 Vinha Barrosa from a vineyard which is over 80 years old. This wine was in my humble opinion incredibly complex and such a surprise I bought this bottle a year or two back for curiosity sake and was completely wowed. His wines from his old vine vineyards are known to age well. I agree young Baga doesn't really float my boat. But the aged juice from Pato is outstanding truly a great wine to search out. His website is <a href="<a href="http://www.luispato.com " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.luispato.com "><a href="http://www.luispato.com " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.luispato.com and is in english as well as Portuguese. He is very friendly and loves promoting his Portuguese indigenous varietals, I have asked him a lot of questions about Portuguese wine making and he always replies back to me personally. We currently distribute his Maria Gomes white but someday I hope to direct import his other reds. Interestingly he makes a sparkling wine with 100% Baga too. I haven't tried it yet but I'll let you know when I do! Let me know what you think if you try them. Aloha!

Re: Grape Profile - Baga - The Saliva Sucker

Tommy — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:06:01 -0000

Ryan the best 100% Baga I have ever had is from producer Luis Pato who is located in Bairrada. He's ones of Portugal's great wine makers. I just recently had his 1998 Vinha Barrosa from a vineyard which is over 80 years old. This wine was in my humble opinion incredibly complex and such a surprise I bought this bottle a year or two back for curiosity sake and was completely wowed. His wines from his old vine vineyards are known to age well. I agree young Baga doesn't really float my boat. But the aged juice from Pato is outstanding truly a great wine to search out. His website is <a href="<a href="http://www.luispato.com " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.luispato.com "><a href="http://www.luispato.com " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.luispato.com and is in english as well as Portuguese. He is very friendly and loves promoting his Portuguese indigenous varietals, I have asked him a lot of questions about Portuguese wine making and he always replies back to me personally. We currently distribute his Maria Gomes white but someday I hope to direct import his other reds. Interestingly he makes a sparkling wine with 100% Baga too. I haven't tried it yet but I'll let you know when I do! Let me know what you think if you try them. Aloha!

Re: Grape Profile - Baga - The Saliva Sucker

ryanopaz — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:03:36 -0000

Just had the higher end wine from Quinta do Encontro...Much nicer baga and great nose:
<ul type="square"><li>2003 Quinta do Encontro Bairrada Preto Branco - Portugal, Beiras, Bairrada (9/12/2007)
I always complained about people judging a wine by it's color. I used to say things like, "You can't taste red", therefore I now feel silly wishing to describe the nose of this wine as blue. That's right blue. Don't know why, but that's what pops in my mind, the aromas and ideas that follow that are diverse and intriguing. Blueberries, cassia, violets(pure and almost volitile), dusty cinnamon topped with shavings of allspice, then mix this all with the gravel from middle of a country road. WOW. I really want to keep my nose it in and everytime I go back I get reminded of something, this time a whiff of my mothers homemade chokecherry syrup. In the mouth this is a lush and sensual wine. Great acidty that sparkles almost combined with fine silky tannins, that leave your mouth receptive to myriad flavors. Blueberries, chokecherries, bitter chocolate and steely gravel. Just opened, I'm excited to see it evolve. Full of flavors that have yet to show themselves, this is a wine I would gladly buy and even cellar for 4-8 more years, if not longer. 4.5/5
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Re: Grape Profile - Baga - The Saliva Sucker

Troy — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:44:58 -0000

you said you want one with just 10 percent baga? try the Quinta das Baceladas. Primarily cabernet sauvignon and merlot, but with -- you guessed it -- about ten percent baga. also, I don't know myself, but the portuguese wine writer Anibal Coutinho claims to have tried some extremely old Bairradinas of pure baga and that they aged very well.

Re: Grape Profile - Baga - The Saliva Sucker

Ryan — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:03:36 -0000

Just had the higher end wine from Quinta do Encontro...Much nicer baga and great nose:

<ul type='square'><li>2003 Quinta do Encontro Bairrada Preto Branco - Portugal, Beiras, Bairrada (9/12/2007)

I always complained about people judging a wine by it's color. I used to say things like, "You can't taste red", therefore I now feel silly wishing to describe the nose of this wine as blue. That's right blue. Don't know why, but that's what pops in my mind, the aromas and ideas that follow that are diverse and intriguing. Blueberries, cassia, violets(pure and almost volitile), dusty cinnamon topped with shavings of allspice, then mix this all with the gravel from middle of a country road. WOW. I really want to keep my nose it in and everytime I go back I get reminded of something, this time a whiff of my mothers homemade chokecherry syrup. In the mouth this is a lush and sensual wine. Great acidty that sparkles almost combined with fine silky tannins, that leave your mouth receptive to myriad flavors. Blueberries, chokecherries, bitter chocolate and steely gravel. Just opened, I'm excited to see it evolve. Full of flavors that have yet to show themselves, this is a wine I would gladly buy and even cellar for 4-8 more years, if not longer. 4.5/5</li></ul>

Re: Grape Profile - Baga - The Saliva Sucker

Troy — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:44:58 -0000