DISQUS

RichardA · 2 years ago

I use the Bravenet Counter Statistics, though I have only been using their expanded stats program for just over two months. I don't know if they count only Java enabled browsers.


Since July 2 (about 2 months), I have had 10880 total hits, and 7761 Unique Visitors. So, an average monthly figure is 5440 total hits and 3880 unique visitors. My new blog has only been operational for 4 months now, though I know the numbers are definitely better than my previous one. But they certainly could be better too.



I know from my Referrer stats that I get most of my visitors from Google Searches and Foodie Blogroller referrals.

Jack · 2 years ago

Please, please, please - do not mention HITS. They couldn't be more meaningless! Every photo on a page is a hit, for example.


Please, please, please - do not mention Webalizer numbers. They're meaningless as they count every spider's visit in detail and every spider skews/counts differently.



I see no mention of Statcounter numbers - a damn lot of people (incl. me) pay/use them. Or what about Bloglines subscribers (which was pretty meaningful until recently when Google Reader numbers would became much more telling - but those, I believe, remain unknown to everyone outside of Google).

RichardA · 2 years ago

I use the Bravenet Counter Statistics, though I have only been using their expanded stats program for just over two months. I don't know if they count only Java enabled browsers.

Since July 2 (about 2 months), I have had 10880 total hits, and 7761 Unique Visitors. So, an average monthly figure is 5440 total hits and 3880 unique visitors. My new blog has only been operational for 4 months now, though I know the numbers are definitely better than my previous one. But they certainly could be better too.

I know from my Referrer stats that I get most of my visitors from Google Searches and Foodie Blogroller referrals.

Jack · 2 years ago

Please, please, please - do not mention HITS. They couldn't be more meaningless! Every photo on a page is a hit, for example.

Please, please, please - do not mention Webalizer numbers. They're meaningless as they count every spider's visit in detail and every spider skews/counts differently.

I see no mention of Statcounter numbers - a damn lot of people (incl. me) pay/use them. Or what about Bloglines subscribers (which was pretty meaningful until recently when Google Reader numbers would became much more telling - but those, I believe, remain unknown to everyone outside of Google).

Ryan · 2 years ago

Jack - This is why I wrote the post...What are your numbers? What is a reason for NOT sharing them? Also do you like stat-counter I left them a while ago. Also left bloglines a year ago, never liked their set up!


Oh and obviously forget Webalizer...it's a joke! But I know people who are still looking at them like they are gold! UGH!

Ryan Opaz · 2 years ago

Jack - This is why I wrote the post...What are your numbers? What is a reason for NOT sharing them? Also do you like stat-counter I left them a while ago. Also left bloglines a year ago, never liked their set up!

Oh and obviously forget Webalizer...it's a joke! But I know people who are still looking at them like they are gold! UGH!

MonkuWino · 2 years ago

Interesting post.. I got a huge (for me, anyway) spike in my numbers due to one blog post about "knockoff wines" served up by a Korean couple at a (fictitious) wine bar in Santa Monica, CA. One of the owners of Kosta Browne saw it and posted the link on Mark Squire's bulletin board asking if this was for real, which then generated a bunch of traffic to the site. But other than that, I get about 10-15 visits per day. I'm going to take you up on your challenge and make it the subject of my blog post today..

MonkuWino · 2 years ago

Interesting post.. I got a huge (for me, anyway) spike in my numbers due to one blog post about "knockoff wines" served up by a Korean couple at a (fictitious) wine bar in Santa Monica, CA. One of the owners of Kosta Browne saw it and posted the link on Mark Squire's bulletin board asking if this was for real, which then generated a bunch of traffic to the site. But other than that, I get about 10-15 visits per day. I'm going to take you up on your challenge and make it the subject of my blog post today..

Gabriella · 2 years ago

MonkuWino - I am so glad you stepped up the plate and are willing to address this! What perplexes me is why more people aren't taking this as seriously as I think they should. For those of us who are taking money for advertising, should we be willing to at least chat about the topic? Is it that people are afraid, fearing that they may get less money if they even discussed this? Does no one care?

Joel · 2 years ago

I was just thinking about this the other day and here's what I found on Google. Its a webmaster forum thread that folks were answering this same question. Bottom line is that Awstats is server based and can account for Bots and the javascript sites (like analytics) obviously do as well.


Each has its drawbacks and pluses. This is a long debate but I think that it boils down to what your peer group is using, their ad rates, and your site relative to theirs.



BTW: Good Google page rank could tell you which way the wind is blowing as well...



<a href="http://www.webmasterworld.com/analytics/3227679.h..."><a href="http://www.webmasterworld.com/analytics/...

Joel · 2 years ago

I was just thinking about this the other day and here's what I found on Google. Its a webmaster forum thread that folks were answering this same question. Bottom line is that Awstats is server based and can account for Bots and the javascript sites (like analytics) obviously do as well.


Each has its drawbacks and pluses. This is a long debate but I think that it boils down to what your peer group is using, their ad rates, and your site relative to theirs.



BTW: Good Google page rank could tell you which way the wind is blowing as well...



<a href="http://www.webmasterworld.com/analytics/3227679.h..."><a href="http://www.webmasterworld.com/analytics/...

Joel · 2 years ago

I was just thinking about this the other day and here's what I found on Google. Its a webmaster forum thread that folks were answering this same question. Bottom line is that Awstats is server based and can account for Bots and the javascript sites (like analytics) obviously do as well.


Each has its drawbacks and pluses. This is a long debate but I think that it boils down to what your peer group is using, their ad rates, and your site relative to theirs.



BTW: Good Google page rank could tell you which way the wind is blowing as well...



<a href="http://www.webmasterworld.com/analytics/3227679.h..."><a href="http://www.webmasterworld.com/analytics/...

RichardA · 2 years ago

The lack of much response is a bit puzzling. I would have hoped that we could discuss this subject fairly openly, and then maybe discuss some ways for all of us to increase the traffic to our sites. Or is it too much to ak us to work together in that respect? Are we competitors with each other for readers? Or can the readership be shared among us?

Gabriella · 2 years ago

MonkuWino - I am so glad you stepped up the plate and are willing to address this! What perplexes me is why more people aren't taking this as seriously as I think they should. For those of us who are taking money for advertising, should we be willing to at least chat about the topic? Is it that people are afraid, fearing that they may get less money if they even discussed this? Does no one care?

Joel V · 2 years ago

I was just thinking about this the other day and here's what I found on Google. Its a webmaster forum thread that folks were answering this same question. Bottom line is that Awstats is server based and can account for Bots and the javascript sites (like analytics) obviously do as well.

Each has its drawbacks and pluses. This is a long debate but I think that it boils down to what your peer group is using, their ad rates, and your site relative to theirs.

BTW: Good Google page rank could tell you which way the wind is blowing as well...

http://www.webmasterworld.com/analytics/3227679...

MonkuWino · 2 years ago

In my case I'm really not expecting a lot of readers (I'd like to have a lot, but given the content, no use being optimistic) so sharing my stats isn't a big deal. Also I don't expect to have any advertising and would feel guilty if anyone did want to actually pay me to put something on the site (other than on a pay-per-click basis). The only thing I hope for, other than readership, is that someone is crazy enough to send me samples to review but that seems out of the question. If I had a bigger readership, maybe I wouldn't want to disclose the stats - also, one thing you may not have considered is that those who do have a sizable amount of visitors may not be disclosing their stats out of modesty. Anyway, sorry to ramble on but those are some more thoughts about the matter.

RichardA · 2 years ago

The lack of much response is a bit puzzling. I would have hoped that we could discuss this subject fairly openly, and then maybe discuss some ways for all of us to increase the traffic to our sites. Or is it too much to ak us to work together in that respect? Are we competitors with each other for readers? Or can the readership be shared among us?

MonkuWino · 2 years ago

In my case I'm really not expecting a lot of readers (I'd like to have a lot, but given the content, no use being optimistic) so sharing my stats isn't a big deal. Also I don't expect to have any advertising and would feel guilty if anyone did want to actually pay me to put something on the site (other than on a pay-per-click basis). The only thing I hope for, other than readership, is that someone is crazy enough to send me samples to review but that seems out of the question. If I had a bigger readership, maybe I wouldn't want to disclose the stats - also, one thing you may not have considered is that those who do have a sizable amount of visitors may not be disclosing their stats out of modesty. Anyway, sorry to ramble on but those are some more thoughts about the matter.

Joel · 2 years ago

My blog (<a href="Vivi's " target="_blank">http://www.vivisjournal.com">Vivi's Wine Journal) is hosted by Typepad so all I have is their statistics. It says about 4000 visits a month so that probably translates to 1500 or so unique visitors.


I didn't keep track of that or care too much because I never meant to monetize the blog. I like putting my opinions out there, chatting with others, and making new wine contacts. And I've made many. Its a resource for some people and has made it into the Wine Blog Awards and even made it on Engadget one day (when I scooped a story on the Enomatic wine machine). You want to see a bump in traffic try making Engadget one day. that week I went up from about 200 visits a day to 2000 a day. It was NUTS.



Anyway, I use my blog just to write my thoughts and interact whenever possible. Over the 3 years its been up its served its purpose well - meeting wine people and informing its small following with good tips and insights.



Some time ago I think I put Google Analytics up there but I honestly haven't logged in to that in a long long time.



BTW - I don't think Tom's stats (20,000 eyeballs...is that 10K people? good marketing) are unique visits. I think they're Typepad stats as well. but don't quote me on that...

Joel · 2 years ago

My blog (<a href="Vivi's " target="_blank">http://www.vivisjournal.com">Vivi's Wine Journal) is hosted by Typepad so all I have is their statistics. It says about 4000 visits a month so that probably translates to 1500 or so unique visitors.


I didn't keep track of that or care too much because I never meant to monetize the blog. I like putting my opinions out there, chatting with others, and making new wine contacts. And I've made many. Its a resource for some people and has made it into the Wine Blog Awards and even made it on Engadget one day (when I scooped a story on the Enomatic wine machine). You want to see a bump in traffic try making Engadget one day. that week I went up from about 200 visits a day to 2000 a day. It was NUTS.



Anyway, I use my blog just to write my thoughts and interact whenever possible. Over the 3 years its been up its served its purpose well - meeting wine people and informing its small following with good tips and insights.



Some time ago I think I put Google Analytics up there but I honestly haven't logged in to that in a long long time.



BTW - I don't think Tom's stats (20,000 eyeballs...is that 10K people? good marketing) are unique visits. I think they're Typepad stats as well. but don't quote me on that...

Joel · 2 years ago

My blog (<a href="Vivi's " target="_blank">http://www.vivisjournal.com">Vivi's Wine Journal) is hosted by Typepad so all I have is their statistics. It says about 4000 visits a month so that probably translates to 1500 or so unique visitors.


I didn't keep track of that or care too much because I never meant to monetize the blog. I like putting my opinions out there, chatting with others, and making new wine contacts. And I've made many. Its a resource for some people and has made it into the Wine Blog Awards and even made it on Engadget one day (when I scooped a story on the Enomatic wine machine). You want to see a bump in traffic try making Engadget one day. that week I went up from about 200 visits a day to 2000 a day. It was NUTS.



Anyway, I use my blog just to write my thoughts and interact whenever possible. Over the 3 years its been up its served its purpose well - meeting wine people and informing its small following with good tips and insights.



Some time ago I think I put Google Analytics up there but I honestly haven't logged in to that in a long long time.



BTW - I don't think Tom's stats (20,000 eyeballs...is that 10K people? good marketing) are unique visits. I think they're Typepad stats as well. but don't quote me on that...

Joel V · 2 years ago

My blog (Vivi's Wine Journal) is hosted by Typepad so all I have is their statistics. It says about 4000 visits a month so that probably translates to 1500 or so unique visitors.

I didn't keep track of that or care too much because I never meant to monetize the blog. I like putting my opinions out there, chatting with others, and making new wine contacts. And I've made many. Its a resource for some people and has made it into the Wine Blog Awards and even made it on Engadget one day (when I scooped a story on the Enomatic wine machine). You want to see a bump in traffic try making Engadget one day. that week I went up from about 200 visits a day to 2000 a day. It was NUTS.

Anyway, I use my blog just to write my thoughts and interact whenever possible. Over the 3 years its been up its served its purpose well - meeting wine people and informing its small following with good tips and insights.

Some time ago I think I put Google Analytics up there but I honestly haven't logged in to that in a long long time.

BTW - I don't think Tom's stats (20,000 eyeballs...is that 10K people? good marketing) are unique visits. I think they're Typepad stats as well. but don't quote me on that...

Tom Wark · 2 years ago

My Monthly Unique visitors dip in the summer to just under 20,000. But they are now going back up and by november will likey be in the 22K to 23K range. Actually, I should change the eyeball ad because it's confusing. If it was accurate it would be 40K eyeballs (two per person--presumably), but then that would suggest I have 40K unique visits.


By the way, does anyone know if statcounter takes account of readers who are getting my content via RSS readers? I've never thought about that and base the number of those reading my posts only on statcounter numbers. I don't look at typepad generate stats. Not that they are wrong. I just stick with statcounter.



I've always used my stats as an indication of the attractiveness of my blogging and the interest my comments have. I do the same when evaluating a magazine. The circulation numbers are a very good gauge of the success of the publication.

Jack · 2 years ago

"By the way, does anyone know if statcounter takes account of readers who are getting my content via RSS readers? " - No. I think the only way to get a count is to have an Ad/image in your feed. Anyway, that's what makes it extra tough to make any kind of accurate count.

Ryan · 2 years ago

I like using Feedburner. Now that google owns it all the premium services are free! I can track a variety of stats and I also know how people are subscribing.

Gabriella · 2 years ago

Tom, you mentioned in "The Meaning of a Wine Blog" post <a href="<a href="http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/583940/20162932

http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/583940/2016293...
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"><a href="http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/58394...

for those wine bloggers interested in putting a prominent link on their site to a new survey in order to obtain more data on a broader range of wine blog readers to contact you. This idea may be worth a greater discussion.

Gabriella · 2 years ago

Tom, you mentioned in "The Meaning of a Wine Blog" post <a href="<a href="http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/583940/20162932

http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/583940/2016293...
/>
"><a href="http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/58394...

for those wine bloggers interested in putting a prominent link on their site to a new survey in order to obtain more data on a broader range of wine blog readers to contact you. This idea may be worth a greater discussion.

Gabriella · 2 years ago

Tom, you mentioned in "The Meaning of a Wine Blog" post <a href="<a href="http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/583940/20162932

http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/583940/2016293...
/>
"><a href="http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/58394...

for those wine bloggers interested in putting a prominent link on their site to a new survey in order to obtain more data on a broader range of wine blog readers to contact you. This idea may be worth a greater discussion.

Tom Wark · 2 years ago

My Monthly Unique visitors dip in the summer to just under 20,000. But they are now going back up and by november will likey be in the 22K to 23K range. Actually, I should change the eyeball ad because it's confusing. If it was accurate it would be 40K eyeballs (two per person--presumably), but then that would suggest I have 40K unique visits.

By the way, does anyone know if statcounter takes account of readers who are getting my content via RSS readers? I've never thought about that and base the number of those reading my posts only on statcounter numbers. I don't look at typepad generate stats. Not that they are wrong. I just stick with statcounter.

I've always used my stats as an indication of the attractiveness of my blogging and the interest my comments have. I do the same when evaluating a magazine. The circulation numbers are a very good gauge of the success of the publication.

Jack · 2 years ago

"By the way, does anyone know if statcounter takes account of readers who are getting my content via RSS readers? " - No. I think the only way to get a count is to have an Ad/image in your feed. Anyway, that's what makes it extra tough to make any kind of accurate count.

Ryan Opaz · 2 years ago

I like using Feedburner. Now that google owns it all the premium services are free! I can track a variety of stats and I also know how people are subscribing.

Gabriella · 2 years ago

Tom, you mentioned in "The Meaning of a Wine Blog" post http://www.typepad.com/t/trackback/583940/20162932
for those wine bloggers interested in putting a prominent link on their site to a new survey in order to obtain more data on a broader range of wine blog readers to contact you. This idea may be worth a greater discussion.

Jill · 2 years ago

Our numbers...pale in comparison to a lot of others out there. But we just launched in May, so we're not feeling too bad about it.


August Stats:



Mint: 2500 uniques per month, 10K pageviews





Google: 2400 absolute uniques per month, 9500 pageviews



Don't know where the discrepancy comes from. This was a big dip in traffic from June and July, and traffic is going up again. Also, we have had trouble integrating the analytics tools to track both our blog and the store, and we're still trying to work out the kinks.



We had an enormous spike when we were in Daily Candy...got about a month's worth of traffic in a day. Our goal? Who knows. We'd love to have 500 uniques per day and we'd be pretty happy.

Tom Wark · 2 years ago

My readership always goes down in the summer, then goes back up in the fall. Print publications see the same trend.

Jill · 2 years ago

Our numbers...pale in comparison to a lot of others out there. But we just launched in May, so we're not feeling too bad about it.

August Stats:

Mint: 2500 uniques per month, 10K pageviews
Google: 2400+ absolute uniques per month, 9500+ pageviews

Don't know where the discrepancy comes from. This was a big dip in traffic from June and July, and traffic is going up again. Also, we have had trouble integrating the analytics tools to track both our blog and the store, and we're still trying to work out the kinks.

We had an enormous spike when we were in Daily Candy...got about a month's worth of traffic in a day. Our goal? Who knows. We'd love to have 500 uniques per day and we'd be pretty happy.

Tom Wark · 2 years ago

My readership always goes down in the summer, then goes back up in the fall. Print publications see the same trend.